Landmarks
Commission Minutes
Wednesday, March 12, 2008
6:30 PM
Council Chambers
City Hall
Present: Commissioners Matt Biven,
Dave Brown, Steve Emer, Pat Jones, David Meyers, Phyllis
Ravensberg, Tom Riggs, Council Liaison Art McDonnell and Staff
Liaison Alan Lamberg.
1. Approval of minutes. Minutes
approved as read with spelling changes and corrections noted.
Motion for approval by Commissioner Brown, seconded by
Commissioner Meyers. Minutes approved unanimously.
2. Volunteer coordination. None
3. Citizens comments. None
4. Certificate of
appropriateness.
a. Case 08-06
425 N Taylor Ave, Landmark # 39 Byars House.
Landscaping addition of in ground pool. Presentation by R &
R Fiberglass Pools, Inc. A site plan was presented by the pool
company. Fence selection presented by home owner. The only
fencing being added is across the east side of the pool.
Existing fencing along the west and south side are to remain
intact.
Motion made to
approve COA with the following conditions: The pump & filter
are not to be visible from the street and are to be located
behind the wood shed at the end of the driveway. The fence that
will run north to south on the east side of the pool will be
made of black aluminum replicating a wrought iron style to be
chosen by the home owner with simplicity as a goal. COA
approved.
b. Case 08-04
526 E Jefferson Ave. Infill; new construction of a
single-family residence. Preliminary plans were presented
by Mike Lewis of Lewis Homes. The designs are by Kim Spurgeon.
The object of the presentation was to obtain feedback from the
Commission on the plans for any areas of objection.
Since design
guidelines have yet to be developed for this area, Commissioner
Jones expressed areas of concern when building in the district.
Her primary concerns regarded window spacing, the use of similar
window style throughout the structure and appropriately sized
shutters. In regards to siding, it is preferred that all 4
sides have the same treatment. And as a general comment, while
it is important to be sympathetic to the styles in the district,
copying a home exactly is not advised. As always, preference is
given to natural materials, while realizing the cost
effectiveness and efficiency of plastic.
The plans as
presented were well received and thoroughly discussed. A plan
for a garage was also presented and the possibility of creating
a second floor office in this space was presented.
c. Case 08-05
139 S Kirkwood Rd, Landmark # 94, City Hall.
Installation of vinyl replacement windows. Kevin Herdler of
City of Kirkwood Department of Purchasing and Commissioner Tom
Riggs discussed the various alternatives for window replacement
in the whole of City Hall. The necessity rises from the
decaying condition of the wood windows, many with broken sashes
and the distressing status of the storm windows resulting in
very inefficient windows. All storms are to be removed and wood
windows are to be replaced. There are 59 windows in all,
excepting the windows in the cupola. The extent of the
replacement is watched by the issue of lead abatement.
The main issue is
cost and efficiency versus aesthetics. Vinyl windows are more
efficient and cost less both initially and from a maintenance
standpoint. However, they offer few color selections and
mullions are contained within the window offering no true
divided light sense. Aluminum clad wood windows can be as
energy efficient but are more costly. They can be clad in white
on the exterior but then would require painting on the inside
making the maintenance costs higher. If properly maintained
theses windows could potentially last longer.
The Commissions
main concern is the view from the outside of the building. Many
of these windows are not visible from the street. Commissioner
Bivens offered suggestions based on the future possibility of
the building being considered as a National Register property.
It is important to follow the 12 over 12 patterns with a double
hung style. The material is not as significant.
Commissioner
Meyers suggested using a mix of windows with the windows that
make up a part of the street scape being wood clad windows and
then utilizing the vinyl type in the remainder.
Commissioner
Ravensberg suggested using the wood clad simulated divided light
in the original building and then using the vinyl in the later
addition.
All agree that
the removal of the storm windows will be a great improvement.
The next step is
to have samples or pictures and costs presented to the
Commission at its next meeting.
d. Case 08-06
428 N Taylor Ave, Landmark#24, Kyle-Essex-Gamble House.
Landscaping replacement of fence. A presentation was
made by the home owner, Cathy Bouchein, regarding replacement of
the white picket fence on the property. She wishes to replace
the existing fence with red cedar pickets that will be painted
white. She will be replacing the hardware with replicas of the
existing hardware. She is working hard to maintain the
integrity of the home through an exact replication of the
fence. However, she cannot get a permit to replace the fence
because it currently is not following code. It needs to be 12
feet from the street and is only 7. Moving the fence will bring
it into an already existing pathway and will disturb the rose
bushes, several of which are very old. Orrick is an unusual
street in that it is not as wide as other streets in Kirkwood.
The fence company, Chesterfield Fence, will not work without a
permit and the variance fee of $ 240 seems excessive considering
her motive. Comm. Meyer suggested that the fence could be
replaced in sections to prevent the need of a building permit,
but the contractor does not want to follow a piecemeal plan.
The Commission
expressed their gratitude for the manner in which she is
replacing the fence and offered to help in any manner that they
could. Unfortunately, code variance does not fall under their
jurisdiction.
Liaison Lamberg
is to talk to the Building Commissioner to determine the best
next step. The proper wording and request will be determined so
that a letter of recommendation can be drawn up to help with a
wanted conclusion.
Ms. Bouchein also
requested a new Landmark designation certificate for her home as
the old one is faded. Alan is all over that.
4. Old Business
a.
Case 08-02 217 S Woodlawn Ave, Landmark # 29
Sutherland-Mitchell-Shallcross House. Demolition of
outbuilding. Commissioner Riggs and Biven conducted a site
visit and met with the home owner to determine the feasibility
of rehabbing the existing outbuilding and the cost involved as
compared to a new building. The report was emailed to the home
owner and all commissioners. No comment has been received from
the home owners. Commissioner Riggs believes that the owners
have no interest in saving the building but are willing to allow
students to perform an archeological dig.
Liaison Lamberg
and Claire Budd, Public Communications Officer, are to write a
press release to offer the building to the public for moving.
Commissioner Jones suggested that Jessie Francis at Faust Park
be contacted.
The demolition
permit has been filed and will be up in May. At that point the
Commission will review to either approve the demolition or to
stay it for longer.
b.
Savoy local historic district
i.
The inventory is currently being compiled. Comm.
Ravensberg has the documentation. The summer intern may be
useful for this project.
ii.
Commissioner Emer will head the sub-committee for the
development of guidelines for the district using input from the
neighbors.
c.
Jefferson-Argonne local historic district
i.
Notes from Feb 23 public forum Copies of the notes
were forwarded to commissioners by email and will be used in the
compiling of guidelines.
ii.
Design guideline development Commissioner Meyers
and Biven will head the sub-committee for the development of
guidelines for the district. All commissioners were reminded
that any and all meetings must be considered public forums and
be published as such and that these meetings fall under the
Sunshine Law.
d.
Development of 4-year plan
i.
Brainstorm on objectives, goals In reviewing the
list of goals, Commissioner Meyers requested that Quinette
Cemetery be kept on the list. He reported that the Parks
Department is trying to develop a plan for the park where the
Parks Dept is responsible for maintenance only. If encouraged,
they would participate in bench or monument placement. Others
in the community want more large memorials, plantings. The
Parks Dept wants to develop politically correct guidelines for
maintaining a park that was once a cemetery.
ii.
Objectives organized into subcommittees, each led by
a commissioner. Started more next meeting.
- New Business
- Citizens seeking advice
none
- Staff observations none.
- Report on meeting with Donne
Poe regarding Downtown Business District. Just
talking National district, not local. Need to outline
the benefits marketing, poss. tax credits. Dont
scare them. Enough interest, go forward. Need to hurry
to be able to write CLG grant by September. For the
matching portion we will do in-kind service. Present
the case Whats to loose? Get sense if they want
it, then write letter to explain where we are. Donna
wants a brown sign on the highway. There are 8-10 local
landmarks. Should help their bottom line. Do rough
map. Way too much from Clay to Taylor. Broad outline
to show owners. Ask everyone to come either April 1 or
2. Alan to send letters to property owners to
come to info meeting. Have one in the day and then have
time for questions at next Landmark meeting.
- Favorite Building Awards -
Deadline for the public is April 2nd.
Doughnut tour on April 5th, 9 am, City Hall.
Finalize choices at April 9th Commission
meeting. Alan to email everyone the list of previous
winners. Everyone needs to be looking for ideas of
nominees.
- Motion to adjourn. Motion was
made to adjourn by comm. Meyers, seconded by comm. Brown.
Approved unanimously. Meeting adjourned 9:10 pm.
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